Stagflation, Social Media & the Collapse of Common Sense
This week on The Higher Standard, Chris, Saied and Rajeel do what the internet refuses to do: have a real conversation without immediately joining a cult. From political tribalism and social media brain rot to stagflation, AI pivots and the absolute insanity of a dead shoe company becoming an “AI infrastructure” play, this episode is a masterclass in spotting the hustle before it spots you. Along the way, the guys unpack why everything feels fake, why people feel stuck, and why modern life somehow includes paying for attention, hype and digital nonsense dressed up as opportunity. Equal parts sharp, funny and slightly unhinged, this one has a little bit of everything.
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Guy, dog, you never watched the Chappelle Show?
Speaker B:Not, like, religiously, no, man.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker B:I think I was in law school back then.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:That makes sense.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The first thing, co creating and co.
Speaker B:Writing the Chappelle Show.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yo.
Speaker B:Damn.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hey, Regill, so you can see my back in this shot right here, right?
Speaker C:I can.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see your back.
Speaker A:Like, one of, like, seven kids or something like that.
Speaker B:Oh, good for him.
Speaker B:52.
Speaker A:See, if I was one of seven kids.
Speaker A:If I was one of seven kids and I came and I, like, had the career, he did every family reunion.
Speaker A:Come in.
Speaker A:I won.
Speaker A:Yeah, I won.
Speaker B:Here's.
Speaker B:Here's my problem.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Is that when you're younger, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You look at people around you and go, oh, he's older than me.
Speaker B:I got time.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker A:I got time.
Speaker B:I have now crossed over in this they're younger than me category.
Speaker B:It's a real problem for me.
Speaker A:People call me sir now.
Speaker A:I'm like, damn, when did this happen?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Random guys at the park.
Speaker A:And I'm looking at him, I'm like, I'm really not that much older than you.
Speaker A:Like, I'm looking at you.
Speaker B:No, but you are, though.
Speaker A:No, no, but I'm not.
Speaker B:But you are, though.
Speaker B:To them.
Speaker B:You are.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:To them, I'm like, yeah, damn.
Speaker A:Should we get started?
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:That's going on the live show.
Speaker B:That's going out.
Speaker A:Welcome back to the number one financial literacy podcast in the world.
Speaker A:This is the higher standard.
Speaker A:Sitting in front of me is my partner in crime in the higher standard hoodie merch that you can find@thspod.com, christopher Nahibi.
Speaker B:That's me, everybody.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker B:Yeah, Let that marinate.
Speaker B:Let that sink in.
Speaker B:Sitting across from my lovely partner in time, the quarter zip king.
Speaker B:The man, the myth, the legend, the guy who doesn't have a job but dresses like it every single day.
Speaker B:Sign Omar, everybody.
Speaker A:Thank you, my man.
Speaker A:Listen, I don't know.
Speaker A:This might be an interview for somebody, for myself.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:Somebody might be.
Speaker A:This might be part of the background check.
Speaker A:And sit behind the desk in the production suite, if you will.
Speaker A:The fine Fijian slim, Rajeel.
Speaker A:What's up, my guy?
Speaker C:What's up, everyone?
Speaker A:Hey, man.
Speaker A:We back, baby.
Speaker B:Doing the dedicated thing.
Speaker B:Coming straight off a flight, right into the studio.
Speaker A:We're so dead.
Speaker A:You and I are so dedicated.
Speaker A:Working around his schedule.
Speaker B:That wasn't quite the way.
Speaker B:That's not.
Speaker B:That's not accurate at all.
Speaker A:I'm trying to give us credit here.
Speaker C:Hold on.
Speaker B:Speaking of which, you'd like to put the teleprompter in the corner.
Speaker B:It probably gives you more visibility.
Speaker A:Yeah, I like.
Speaker A:I like when I.
Speaker A:Because, like, I know when we talk, you just look.
Speaker A:Focus at me.
Speaker A:But I like to include regill.
Speaker A:I constantly look at him.
Speaker C:He does.
Speaker B:Speaking of your inclusion, we received an official complaint to the show.
Speaker B:Oh, let's do it.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're gonna.
Speaker B:You are not allowed to spe.
Speaker B:Hold on, hold on.
Speaker B:Shut up.
Speaker B:Say I'm talking.
Speaker A:We need to address this.
Speaker A:We need to address this right away.
Speaker B:So say I'm talking.
Speaker B:Shut up.
Speaker A:This a listener, A longtime listener, arguably an OG listener.
Speaker B:I liked him quite a great deal.
Speaker A:Like you.
Speaker A:Oh, you going past this?
Speaker A:I'm giving him a chance to come back around.
Speaker B:Look, dude, look.
Speaker B:He was one of the OG listeners.
Speaker B:We talked a lot in the DMs.
Speaker B:There was never any exchanging of foot pictures.
Speaker B:You know, I mean, he was a pretty straightforward dude.
Speaker B:He clearly.
Speaker A:He knows.
Speaker A:He knows that this strikes a chord with you and I because he gave us a semi decent review back in the day.
Speaker A:We discussed it on the show.
Speaker A:He went back and, you know, fixed the review, made it five stars.
Speaker A:He was very honest.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And now I think he was very upset over, you know, an episode that we had recently.
Speaker B:Call it a Sheriff Yonko.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, he makes it very clear.
Speaker A:So let's.
Speaker A:Let's just read it before we get into everything.
Speaker B:Well, the backstory.
Speaker B:This a little bit.
Speaker B:So it started off in the comments section of the first social media post on Instagram, where he basically accused us of following Joe Rogan's cadence, which is not really an insult, but.
Speaker B:Okay, fine.
Speaker B:That we.
Speaker B:That we sold out for more views, which I candidly, if that was a plan, it didn't work.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker A:I mean, it did got.
Speaker A:It did get a lot of traction.
Speaker B:Yeah, it got some traction, but.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So the backstory here was.
Speaker B:And I don't think we ever shared.
Speaker B:This was Farad who did the guest interview with me.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:Let's read the.
Speaker A:Let's read the reviews so everyone can understand what we're talking about first.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:You want.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Don't cut me off again.
Speaker A:Stop talking.
Speaker A:More.
Speaker A:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:Yeah, this from CPT Engineer.
Speaker A:More maga.
Speaker A:Conspiracy theory One star.
Speaker B:I didn't understand the conspiracy theory MAGA part.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Was it the counting votes thing that bothered him?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker A:So in a desperate Bid for followers and ratings.
Speaker A:They turned to the Joe Rogan recipe in backing the maga cult to gain viewership.
Speaker A:Unfortunately, we now see Joe laments.
Speaker A:Also host Chris never lets his co host speak or communicate his own thoughts and views.
Speaker A:Wait, so I wasn't the co host of that episode?
Speaker A:So was it.
Speaker A:Was it.
Speaker A:Was he talking about Farshad or was he talking about me?
Speaker B:Well, what was going on there?
Speaker A:I didn't really understand.
Speaker A:There was no.
Speaker A:There was no views for me to point out on that episode.
Speaker A:It's very clear to me that this listener was very triggered by the opposing political party.
Speaker A:Let's just leave it at that.
Speaker A:And I think he let his emotions get the best of him because he was a longtime listener and he of all people should know us better than a majority of our listeners.
Speaker A:And how we've been honest from day one.
Speaker A:We have reached out to both sides of the aisle.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And not just politics, but everybody.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:We've had guests like Larry Wheels on the show that we did.
Speaker A:We went above and beyond.
Speaker B:Camp Hop can't pop in the background.
Speaker C:Camp Hop.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:That we collaborated with them with.
Speaker A:And we won't even get into the specifics on, like, the.
Speaker A:The deal that was made.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:With him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But chose to not, you know, collaborate with us on any of the content that we made just so he can get on our show.
Speaker A:And, you know, I don't know for.
Speaker A:For what reason.
Speaker A:Just to help him.
Speaker A:Maybe like prep for interviews or what was the real.
Speaker B:I mean, let's not go there.
Speaker B:Here's what I'll say about Larry.
Speaker B:Larry is a nice guy.
Speaker B:He's very oddly, like, open about some things that are probably very taboo now.
Speaker B:You could easily argue.
Speaker B:He's nice because the exposure is part of what he gets.
Speaker B:I think he's just grown up or with thick skin around him because he got really, really popular really young.
Speaker B:Like, he was like 19.
Speaker A:No, man, you're just trying to be nice.
Speaker A:Let's call some.
Speaker B:But he did.
Speaker B:He did promise to do some things that he did not do.
Speaker B:And I did get.
Speaker B:Get him some pretty rare exclusive shoes, hoping that he would collaborate on stuff.
Speaker B:And he didn't do any of those collaborations.
Speaker A:And that all that was agreed and discussed upon.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and I mean, on the show itself, even though I wasn't there that day for that recording, he said, oh, he, you know, credits a lot of his success to Bradley Martin, how much he helped him.
Speaker A:So he understood, like, the position that we were in at the time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:That's fine.
Speaker A:It didn't work out.
Speaker B:He understood.
Speaker B:He should have understood better than anybody else who's been on the show.
Speaker B:What him like pushing us would have done it would have been paying it forward.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:But he chose not to do that for reasons that.
Speaker B:And then he kind of ghosted me afterward.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we have a very close group of friends where I can, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm like one person removed from his friend network right now.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's not seven degrees of separation, it's one.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:But okay, back to the Sheriff Chad Bianco episode.
Speaker A:I'll let you explain how that interview even came about.
Speaker A:But we've now consistently began reaching out to both sides of the aisle.
Speaker A:We can't control who accepts and who doesn't accept.
Speaker B:I've reached out to literally every single candidate, even the cell wall guy, Seawall guy, what his name is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hey, he ain't taking before all that went.
Speaker A:He ain't taking any calls right now.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, Saw.
Speaker A:Although right now would be a great time to interview him.
Speaker B:I would love to talk to him.
Speaker B:I sent it like a week before all that came out though.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, now, now I want to send a follow up.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:Be like, dog, we're not going to talk about, you know, stuff.
Speaker A:And if anyone were to go back and listen to that episode and don't just rely on like the political party or what maybe things that have been said in the past.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:This, it's not going to be a sit down interrogation where we're going to grill, you know, certain talking points that, that was said in the past.
Speaker B:Because I can't get people on the show if I do that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Here's the problem.
Speaker B:If I grill like let's say Bianco, Sheriff Chad Bianco, I grill him on things that I may or may not agree with him with.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:Then Democrats can say, oh, he's a Democrat supporter.
Speaker B:And Republicans will say, oh, he supports Democrats so that I won't get any Republican candidates on.
Speaker B:I won't get a Democrat candidates on.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Or I can go the opposite approach and I can say, okay, let me let him talk.
Speaker B:He's a human.
Speaker B:Let's let him be human on the show.
Speaker B:See what his personality is like.
Speaker B:I'm not going to grill him hard on anything.
Speaker B:But if a Democrat comes on the show, if I can get somebody on the show, I'm going to let them do the same thing.
Speaker B:Because here's the problem.
Speaker B:I don't really give a shit about Your politics.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Here's what I care about.
Speaker B:How are you going to fix this state, my guy?
Speaker B:How are you going to fix this?
Speaker B:Can I trust you?
Speaker A:And I challenge anybody to go back and listen to that episode and find me something that he said that was so morally wrong.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:He surprised me a lot in that regard because I thought he had several opportunities to go after Democrats attack them and he didn't.
Speaker B:Yeah, he had several opportunities to really co sign the president and truth.
Speaker B:And he didn't.
Speaker A:And truthfully, before he came on, I, I was a little worried about, oh my God, I hope this doesn't take a, a right turn.
Speaker A:Pun intended.
Speaker B:Keep in mind.
Speaker B:So let me, let me give everybody a little perspective on the background and then how he came in, because I, I honestly was somewhat impressed.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like a guy like Larry Wills came on.
Speaker B:It just felt uncomfortable.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It just didn't feel right.
Speaker B:It was weird because he's twice your size.
Speaker B:He's my weight, but just like bigger in every sense.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was weird.
Speaker B:It was first time I felt like you on the show where I was sitting next to him.
Speaker A:Now you get it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This is how you feel.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I'm so sorry.
Speaker B:But so Far Shot had reached out to him.
Speaker B:So Far Shot came on the show before, is a big supporter of the show and he wants to see us grow.
Speaker B:And Farshad's pretty well connected, got a pretty big following and he's been just as a friend, just trying to reach out to people and see who would come on.
Speaker B:He sent him a DM cold and he responded and said, hey, yeah, I'll come on you.
Speaker B:And I had to have a conversation about it first where we're like, hey, man, like, is this what we're gonna do?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Because I mean, I could surprise people if, like, oh, all of a sudden, say it's off camera now, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, well, it wasn't just that.
Speaker B:It was, are we gonna interview this guy?
Speaker B:Yeah, you know, he is a, a big name, but at the same time he is a politician.
Speaker B:But at the same time he's also the current sheriff of a, you know, pretty sizable city.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So there was a lot of thought that went into it.
Speaker B:And then, you know, we agreed to do it.
Speaker B:And he doesn't work through a third party, like intermediary.
Speaker B:He's direct.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Which is very uncommon.
Speaker B:So I, right away I'm like on my, on my, you know, kind of back, feet in my heels here, going.
Speaker A:But also a little respectful.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because that's kind of how you operate.
Speaker A:I do everything yourself.
Speaker B:It's exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's how I operate.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:There wasn't, like, media trading.
Speaker B:They didn't have a ton of questions beforehand.
Speaker B:Like, it was just like, hey.
Speaker B:Like, no.
Speaker B:So when we asked him, like, who runs your.
Speaker B:Your Instagram?
Speaker B:He was like, oh, I. I run it.
Speaker B:I was blown away by that.
Speaker B:I did not see that coming.
Speaker B:And I got to tell you, like, there was a lot of little surprises like that where I'm like, okay, this guy's built different.
Speaker B:And you know what?
Speaker B:Like, I respect that.
Speaker B:At the same time, you and I decided that if we're going to do this, we're going to open this up to everybody to talk to.
Speaker B:So I started emailing people.
Speaker B:I started DMing people.
Speaker B:Gavin Newsom, Vera Gosa.
Speaker B:Like, and I really want to talk to Viragosa.
Speaker B:Like, I really want to talk to that dude.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But there's a number of people that I really want to talk to that we've invited on DMs calls and emails.
Speaker A:We gotta get Spencer proud on next.
Speaker B:You know, honestly, I would love to talk to that guy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't really care about his politics, but he's got a great story.
Speaker B:Can you imagine?
Speaker B:Like, that dude was literally selling crystals out of his house.
Speaker B:I shit you not.
Speaker B:He was selling crystals out of his house.
Speaker B:Like, energy, light healer kind of whole thing.
Speaker B:Taking his kids to school, doing his thing.
Speaker B:House burns down.
Speaker B:And now he's like, I'm gonna run for.
Speaker B:I'm gonna run for governor.
Speaker A:Mayor.
Speaker B:Mayor.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:See, this is how disconnected I am in politics.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I don't even know.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But here's the problem is people don't realize that we put in so much work into this.
Speaker B:Like your son, when you left the house today.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I was telling Chris right before the show that as I was leaving to head over to the show, Adam looks at me.
Speaker A:Hey, dad, can I just tell you one more thing before you leave?
Speaker A:I think it's really cool that you and Uncle Chris are.
Speaker A:Sorry, Rajeel, he doesn't know you very well just yet.
Speaker A:No, it's not.
Speaker A:It'll come.
Speaker B:That Puerto Rican guy you guys got,.
Speaker A:Uncle Arud has changed.
Speaker A:It's like you and Uncle Chris are doing.
Speaker A:Are building the podcast, and I can't wait to see it explode.
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, me too, Adam.
Speaker A:I think it's gonna.
Speaker A:It's gonna be great.
Speaker A:He's like, just try to get Donald Trump on.
Speaker B:We've already had one Republican on we can't do it.
Speaker A:We can't do it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Look, I, you know, I wonder.
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker C:He's a smart kid.
Speaker C:He knows how to pull the audience.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He's actually, he has conversations with me all the time.
Speaker A:He's like, you know, you gotta be like, more Mr.
Speaker A:Beast.
Speaker A:You know, he's like, you just gotta like, go right into it and do something big.
Speaker A:Dad, you should go, like, get on an airplane.
Speaker A:Okay, relax.
Speaker B:He's not.
Speaker B:Well, that's not what we do.
Speaker B:But I understand, like, what.
Speaker B:Where the sentiment is.
Speaker B:Here's the thing is, is when we started this, there, there were like, delusional aspirations of blowing up.
Speaker B:But then reality is kind of set in, like, we are a very niche show.
Speaker B:And then I see tvpn, who's very niche into the tech sector, Silicon Valley.
Speaker B:They're targeting really only 200,000 people in the United States.
Speaker A:And that's why I'm dressing the way I'm dressing in case I want people to see how versatile we are.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:You see, like, we're also worth $200 million.
Speaker B:Shouldn't we discuss that?
Speaker B:You're the hobo and I'm the versatile dress up one.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker A:No, we'll go back and forth because.
Speaker B:I didn't get that memo.
Speaker B:We're going to start making ths golf gear.
Speaker B:Why not?
Speaker A:I'm, I'm all for it.
Speaker B:I know you are.
Speaker B:With boat shoes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's going to say so in the back side, everybody.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Sm.
Speaker B:Sm.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Muhammad.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I also know that, like, with the show, I know our limitations.
Speaker B:I'm not like, I don't care about blowing up.
Speaker B:And that's, that's kind of the thing that bothered me about this guy's comment.
Speaker B:It was a bother music.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I know people go like, oh, the.
Speaker A:Show was never intended to, like, we never created it or started it to, like, really blow up.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:There may have been some delusional confidence at some point, but that's a good thing.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:If you, if you, if you don't have that, then the show couldn't even get to where it currently is now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's been an evolution.
Speaker A:It's, it's, it's, it's necessary.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:To even get to where it is now.
Speaker A:But it was really always supposed to be a show where we give back, we help people, we enjoy talking about these things.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And if it could be something that we could leave to our kids one day where they could download an AI or create an AI agent that replicates their dad based on all the content that we put out there.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:I'm 100% confident that's the thing now.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:We've got enough audio out there to where.
Speaker B:If our kids ever wanted to, like, recreate us in voice and in look, they could do that with AI.
Speaker B:So at least I was.
Speaker B:I was talking to you guys earlier, and I don't think I've ever talked about it publicly on the show, but the last couple of years of my life have been failure after failure after failure.
Speaker B:And I know, objectively speaking, that's my opinion, but I need a hit of dopamine, man.
Speaker B:Like, I need a win.
Speaker B:And I want that win to be the podcast for a lot of reasons, because it's been, like, the most passionate of the projects that I worked.
Speaker A:A hell of a drug.
Speaker A:Yeah, that could be a quick dopamine hit if you want.
Speaker A:Instant rush, Instant dopamine hit.
Speaker B:Let's go.
Speaker B:No, I. I just need to feel like something's progressing in a meaningful way.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:I felt like the last couple years in particular have been clawing and scratching and fighting, and it sucks because, like.
Speaker B:Like today we put out the first.
Speaker B:The higher standard, like, educational content.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And, I mean, I.
Speaker B:We got the teleprompter set up and this thing set up, like, months and months ago, but I didn't have the chance to really mess with it.
Speaker B:Cause I've been so busy with other things, and I think people.
Speaker B:People lose sight of.
Speaker B:And, like, the comment that.
Speaker B:This guy's comment didn't bother me because he thought we got political.
Speaker B:It didn't bother me because, you know, he called us these names.
Speaker B:It bothered me because it showed a lack of appreciation for the amount of work that we're putting in and not.
Speaker A:Yeah, this isn't.
Speaker A:This isn't the first.
Speaker A:I wouldn't.
Speaker A:I don't want to call it hateful, but this isn't the first.
Speaker A:This was.
Speaker A:This wasn't the first comment.
Speaker B:He was disappointed.
Speaker B:He wasn't hateful.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:This wasn't the first comment that we received that went against, like, what we believed in or what we stood by.
Speaker A:So we're not addressing each and every single one of these, but this one kind of hurt because, like, I like to do, hey, you know us.
Speaker A:Come on, you know us.
Speaker A:No, why are you doing this?
Speaker B:I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker B:But you know what I do have a problem with, though, and I'll be honest about it.
Speaker B:Is I hate how we have gotten as a society to where you have to swear allegiance to one side of an aisle.
Speaker B:Honestly, fudge the aisles.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker B:I mean that with complete disrespect to what the modern day political system is, because it's a joke.
Speaker A:The aisle, the aisle was created intentionally for you to have to pick a side.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, let's be honest.
Speaker B:Trump himself was not a Republican.
Speaker B:He chose to run as that because he had gave him his greatest chance of winning.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:That doesn't mean you got a side.
Speaker B:That means you just know the team that you can play with to win a championship.
Speaker B:That's all that is.
Speaker A:I, I, I actually really believe that, you know, the reason why there's only two major political parties is so that you're forced to have to pick a side.
Speaker A:And it's, and it's easier to dislike the opposing side.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because now you, you pick a side.
Speaker B:Well, why are we disliking things?
Speaker B:And then there's God, I could go on such a long diatribe right now of people like saying and doing shit that says, I'm so goddamn tired of virtue signaling.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't care what someone's pronouns are.
Speaker B:I don't care what your life choices are.
Speaker B:Like, that's none of my business.
Speaker B:But I shouldn't have to, to, to recite your virtues back to you, to make you feel good about you.
Speaker A:You do you, when do we at,.
Speaker B:Like, this is not just like, this is like everything in life where everybody wants to be known for, like their thing.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, we all want to be successful, we all want to be recognized.
Speaker B:But I can't force you to recognize me as being special.
Speaker B:You have to recognize me that on.
Speaker A:Imagine me, imagine me going around being like, I need you to recognize me as a Laker fan every day.
Speaker A:This is the thing that I'm tribal.
Speaker B:But that's, that's what we all do is we get, we as a society.
Speaker B:And this is, this, this is like, this is so broad of a net.
Speaker B:It's like religion.
Speaker B:It's like finance.
Speaker B:It's, it's fitness, it's politics, it's, it's dietary restriction.
Speaker B:People get.
Speaker B:So do you know how many people were on social media going, I'm a carnivore.
Speaker B:I'm a carnivore.
Speaker B:I'm a carnivore.
Speaker B:And 99 of them now are eating carbs again.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:I'm, I'm primal.
Speaker A:I eat primal.
Speaker A:I remember when primal was first going around.
Speaker A:That was, that was everything Wasn't that.
Speaker C:The Liver King guy?
Speaker B:The Liver King was, Was.
Speaker A:No way before that, Marxist.
Speaker A:And, you know, back when he, when he came around with the blueprint, it was like, I'm not going to lie, I was one of them too.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker A:But it feels like all these things are being created so for everyone to be able to find their, Their niche, their.
Speaker A:Their cult to follow and be a part of, to feel like they're.
Speaker A:They're tribal about something.
Speaker B:But this is marketing 101, and we, we objectively forget it intentionally because it's easy to find the confirmation bias and dive in.
Speaker B:Okay, but let me just give you some.
Speaker B:Just random examples, top of my head.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:We didn't plan this out.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:All right, so let's just talk about some things.
Speaker B:There are die hard cold plungers.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That's their tribe.
Speaker B:There are die hard sauna people.
Speaker B:That's their tribe.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:There are die hard Rogan people.
Speaker B:There are die hard vintage jewelry people.
Speaker B:There are die hard PTA moms.
Speaker B:They are.
Speaker B:There are die hard Muslims.
Speaker B:There are die hard Israeli people.
Speaker A:And there's only enough, enough hours in the day to where you can commit so much to that one thing.
Speaker A:And there's nothing else for you to commit to.
Speaker B:But what I don't understand is like, you can be any of those things.
Speaker B:Like you could be.
Speaker B:I walked into an old Jewish guy's house the other day and he's watching Israeli tv, itv.
Speaker B:I never even heard of it.
Speaker B:And it had such a very different connotation and spin to what I had seen regarding the war, because it was still very much before the ceasefire conversations happened.
Speaker B:And we sat down at his table.
Speaker B:He ordered some food from a Jewish deli, which he owned.
Speaker B:It was sensational food.
Speaker B:Rye bread, by the way.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:It's good.
Speaker B:Anyway.
Speaker B:And I'm watching the TV while he's talking to me and he's, you know, we're talking about some business stuff.
Speaker B:And I'm just.
Speaker B:I'm just fascinated by how different the rhetoric is.
Speaker B:I didn't judge the man because of his beliefs that that's what he's watching, that's what he's doing.
Speaker B:He wasn't forcing me to do anything.
Speaker B:We had a good meal, we watched.
Speaker B:We watched a little bit of tv.
Speaker B:Culturally, I saw some differences.
Speaker B:That doesn't make me a bad person or a good person, but I guarantee you, someone listening to this show is going to go, oh, Chris, you're supporting this side or that side or this Side or that side.
Speaker B:And I always kind of like, shrug my shoulders a little bit and go, okay, wait a minute.
Speaker B:Did you decide to go to war with Iran?
Speaker B:Did you decide to, to.
Speaker B:To do any of the things the White House has done?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:People say, well, oh, Chris, you're, you're, you're spouting this underlying, like, you know, undermining of the, the political system by saying that, that you don't believe the votes, you know, matter, and I don't.
Speaker B:I do not.
Speaker B:But does that mean that you have to know?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:My fundament is that the Electoral College.
Speaker B:Sorry I spit a bit on you.
Speaker B:I'm so excited.
Speaker B:The Electoral College doesn't decide who's.
Speaker B:They decide who's president.
Speaker B:You're.
Speaker B:The popular vote means nothing.
Speaker A:That's why it's in place.
Speaker B:That's why it's in place.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker A:I mean, did you really think they were going to leave it up to us?
Speaker A:Did you really?
Speaker B:Well, and like, how many of the last.
Speaker B:Google this, Virgil.
Speaker B:How many of the last presidents lost the popular or won the popular vote but lost the election?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I guarantee that there's probably at least one or two in the last, like, three or four presidents.
Speaker B:Then.
Speaker B:I don't, I don't know the exact numbers.
Speaker B:And I guess, like, my point is, is like, why can't we have collegial disagreements and still be cool?
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, I mean, look, just.
Speaker A:I remember seeing a stat where.
Speaker A:What is this original pulled up.
Speaker A:A US President has lost the popular vote, but won the election five times in history.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:These instances occurred when candidates secured their presidency through the Electoral College despite receiving fewer individual votes nationwide.
Speaker C:Oops, sorry.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're all good.
Speaker A: , DJT: Speaker A:Oh, dang.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Dang.
Speaker A:John Quincy Adams Angster.
Speaker A:1824,.
Speaker B:Homie.
Speaker B:Like that, though, but he lost popular.
Speaker B:Andrew Jackson, though.
Speaker A:But I think I, I look back at a time when, the time, most recently, when, you know, Biden being Trump.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:It was the greatest outcome in votes ever in history.
Speaker A:They both had, you know, over like 70 million votes or something.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And it's like they both had.
Speaker A:It's the greatest outcome ever for people to come out and vote.
Speaker A:But, I mean, 70 million people voted this way and 70 million people voted this way.
Speaker A:There's a clear divide, bro.
Speaker A:That's not.
Speaker A:When you tell me you won the popular vote.
Speaker A:Barely.
Speaker B:So, and this is the way I, I kind of always go back to the same concept and believe it or not, I quote Jamie Dimon, you got to live with the world you got, right?
Speaker B:Like, I could argue about all the things I don't like about the world, but you got to live in the world.
Speaker B:You got that.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's easy.
Speaker A:I think it's.
Speaker A:That's easier for somebody to, I guess, come to terms with when you're a financial guy.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:It's like, I'm going to play by the rules that are made because, like,.
Speaker B:You know, but it doesn't do.
Speaker B:It's not just exclusive to the.
Speaker B:To the rules of business.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:There are rules of the world that are supposed to be in place.
Speaker B:I don't care what religion anyone is.
Speaker B:Respect for fellow man is supposed to be amongst all religions.
Speaker A:That's what I preach to my kids, too.
Speaker B:And that's a gender neutral man term, by the way.
Speaker B:It meant fellow humans.
Speaker A:So anybody gets upset, yeah, it's.
Speaker C:Love you for being inclusive.
Speaker B:Yeah, I got you, Doc.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Believe in.
Speaker A:Believe in what?
Speaker A:You got to believe in to be the best version of yourself.
Speaker A:I'll respect you all day for that.
Speaker A:If you feel like this makes you the best version of you, then go do that.
Speaker A:I'm just over here trying to be the best version of me.
Speaker B:And you know, what sucks is, like, as much as we have tried to be neutral on, like, politics in the show, and I still.
Speaker B:I still am.
Speaker B:I still think we are.
Speaker B:I'll be honest.
Speaker B:I. I don't think that Rogan is politically cited, per se.
Speaker B:I've heard him say bad things about the president.
Speaker B:I've heard him say good things about the president.
Speaker B:I think I believe him when he said that.
Speaker B:I invited.
Speaker A:Well, there was some conspiracy.
Speaker A:There was some.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:No, he did.
Speaker A:No, for sure he did, but he didn't.
Speaker A:He wasn't gonna, like, give in to, like, the.
Speaker A:You know, I'll have to ask you only the questions that you allow me to ask.
Speaker B:But why should he?
Speaker B:Why should.
Speaker A:No, that's not.
Speaker A:That's not an interview.
Speaker A:That's not the way our.
Speaker A:My show is done.
Speaker B:Well, I mean that.
Speaker B:Keep in mind, like, he's in a much different position than you and I are.
Speaker A:And you got to understand, like, okay, he's going to be respectful, right?
Speaker A:Like, obviously, he's not going to come on and just start grilling you.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's bad business.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:But I know he's in hot water because of, you know, the episode with Theo.
Speaker B:I didn't see that episode.
Speaker B:I don't like.
Speaker B:I don't like listening to him talk to the comedians.
Speaker B:Don't get me wrong.
Speaker A:I love.
Speaker A:Those are my favorite episodes.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm not a fan of the comedian one.
Speaker A:I love it when they talk about.
Speaker A:When they talk about comedy in its art form.
Speaker A:That's what I like about it.
Speaker B:No, I like that, too.
Speaker B:But at the same time, like, a lot of the comedy shows, so when they come on, they're usually promoting something, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, but they promote it at the end.
Speaker B:No, I know.
Speaker B:But at the same time, it's like, look, man, like, I like all.
Speaker B:Like the alien stuff.
Speaker B:I like all the.
Speaker B:Yeah, the health and science stuff, I like.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker B:You know, I like the.
Speaker B:I don't feel like the comedy stuff gives me anything.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:That's literally there just for you to have content.
Speaker A:But they know the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The conspiracy around the Theo Vaughn episode was that he.
Speaker A:He had.
Speaker A:He was doing an episode with Charlie Sheen where he acted like he was finding out about Charlie.
Speaker A:Kirk in real time.
Speaker A:And then on the Theo Vaughn episode, he was like, I was out of the state.
Speaker A:I wasn't even here.
Speaker B:Wait, what?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So on the episode with Charlie Sheen.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:He's like, well, we just heard.
Speaker A:Got some breaking news about.
Speaker A:He's acting like.
Speaker A:So I don't know which one.
Speaker B:This is the one that Rogan was on with Charlie Sheen.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:When she.
Speaker A:Charlie Sheen was on his show.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Where he finds out about Kirk.
Speaker A:It's like, it happened in real time.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And then the Theo Von episode, he's like, I. I was out hunting.
Speaker A:I was in Utah when that happened.
Speaker A:And you're like, wait, what?
Speaker A:I remember the episode where you said you found out about it in real time.
Speaker B:Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This is all new to me.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So that's why I think he's a little bit of hot water.
Speaker A:And then, you know, Theo's been very outspoken about his beliefs in, you know, all the geopolitical conflicts.
Speaker A:So he's.
Speaker A:He's picking the side.
Speaker B:He's clearly.
Speaker A:He's clearly picking a side.
Speaker A:And Rogan's trying to tell him, hey, man, we need to get you, like, back, like, to neutral.
Speaker A:Like, you're.
Speaker A:You're going off the deep end, and it's like people are in.
Speaker A:Up in arms because they're like, wait, let the guy feel however he wants to feel.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:But Rogue, I think what people are misunderstanding is Rogan was just trying to look out for his friend.
Speaker A:It's like what social media is Doing to some people with all these geopolitical conflicts, it's literally consuming them.
Speaker B:Yeah, man.
Speaker B:And, and I've seen this.
Speaker B:So I've got a lot of friends and I'm gonna be the guy that says, you don't, don't, don't nod your head to keep.
Speaker B:Look right here, okay.
Speaker B:Don't look straight at me.
Speaker B:Don't say anything.
Speaker B:I love a room to death.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:But homeboy has gone hardcore on the social media sphere.
Speaker B:And me as a friend, like, you got your beliefs.
Speaker B:That's cool, right?
Speaker B:Like, I'm not co signing.
Speaker B:Not co signing.
Speaker B:All I'm gonna say is this.
Speaker B:If you want to enter the workforce at some point in time, some of the stuff that you've been posting on social media is extreme enough to move your hat out of the ring.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:They're not gonna hire you because of some of the extreme.
Speaker A:But some people, some people are willing, like, if that's what's gonna be, that's what it's gonna be.
Speaker A:And then because they just feel like, I need, I need to.
Speaker A:They feel like was silence and we.
Speaker A:I mean, you.
Speaker A:You can agree to that to some degree, right?
Speaker A:You feel like sometimes silence is.
Speaker A:Speaks louder.
Speaker B:Oh, 100.
Speaker B:But at the same time, like, here's the thing.
Speaker B:Like, I think about too, a lot, like, there's a lot of people in a lot of different communities who feel like they're supporting people by saying stuff, but there's really no action there.
Speaker B:You trying to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You want to know, like, okay, okay, I get it, I get it, I get it.
Speaker A:Now what are you going to do about it?
Speaker B:You trying to radicalize other people to your side of the opinion by just making statements and showing, like, repost.
Speaker B:That to me, is not.
Speaker B:You think you're spreading awareness.
Speaker B:To me, you're not spreading awareness.
Speaker B:You're being used as a tool to radicalize other people.
Speaker B:And you don't know the source of that information.
Speaker B:You think you do.
Speaker A:There's a place.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:There's a.
Speaker A:There.
Speaker A:I don't know if there is a place where there's a.
Speaker A:There's a community where you should be able to like, have those kind of conversations.
Speaker A:But if you want to make a change, what's the saying?
Speaker A:Like, attract with honey nut vinegar.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:So it's like, there's got to be a different.
Speaker A:If you're really trying to make a change, in my opinion, that's the route you want to go down.
Speaker B:But then again, the problem with that, okay.
Speaker B:Is that, let's say such a Heavy topic, but okay.
Speaker A:Dude, it's.
Speaker A:It's hard.
Speaker A:It's hard for.
Speaker A:I get.
Speaker A:This is why I think social media is.
Speaker A:Isn't for everybody, and it shouldn't be for everybody, right?
Speaker B:It's programming us, right?
Speaker B:We are.
Speaker B:We are actively being programmed by social media to think and do things that you go, oh, I like this.
Speaker B:But then you get, you know, shoveled 10x more of it.
Speaker A:I mean, this show's already flagged, right?
Speaker A:I mean, this one's not good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:This one's not getting pushed.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Okay, tinfoil hat on.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:Another conspiracy theory that's going, like, you know, viral right now is.
Speaker A:Was it Palm Beach Pete?
Speaker A:Palm Beach Pete.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, that's Epstein.
Speaker B:Oh, he looks just like Epstein.
Speaker A:And it got all.
Speaker A:All a lot of similar features, right?
Speaker B:He looks just.
Speaker A:And it's just interesting that it's Palm Beach.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:We're not gonna get into all those reasons why, but you look at all the comment sections, and it's people from all around the world and like, oh, yeah, Americans.
Speaker A:What are you gonna do about it?
Speaker A:And they know.
Speaker A:It's like, you're not even gonna do anything about it.
Speaker A:You're all, it.
Speaker A:The word is like, you guys are all talk.
Speaker A:You're all gonna sit there and be quiet.
Speaker A:You're just gonna keep going about your day.
Speaker B:That's not just Americans, though.
Speaker B:That's everybody in the world.
Speaker A:That's everybody.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:So it's like, that's why people feel like.
Speaker A:You don't feel like you.
Speaker A:You can do anything.
Speaker A:You feel helpless.
Speaker B:I get that.
Speaker A:You know, Like, I don't even know what to tell, like, if my son and daughter grow up one day and don't agree with some of the things that, you know, we've done as.
Speaker A:As a nation.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Not just saying now, anytime in the past, in the history, too, right?
Speaker A:And they say, you.
Speaker A:Why'd you guys choose to live here?
Speaker A:Why don't you guys decide to, like, stand up for something and go misra?
Speaker A:And I'd be like, I don't know.
Speaker A:Where was I gonna go?
Speaker A:What was I gonna do?
Speaker A:This is all I know.
Speaker A:I gotta.
Speaker A:I gotta play the game with the cars that I've been dealt with.
Speaker B:But yet you're the son of immigrants.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:Like, they.
Speaker B:They left everything to come here for a better life.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:If you're someone to ask you that same question, are you unwilling to leave everything for a better life?
Speaker B:But what.
Speaker A:I guess, yeah, it's your definition of what is a better life.
Speaker C:I think this is a great life here in America.
Speaker A:Yeah, I do too.
Speaker A:Obviously, hands down.
Speaker A:No, I mean, other countries and 100 every.
Speaker A:I mean, other countries definitely have, have their flaws and I'm very grateful for the one that we have.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But it's like, it's hard, it's.
Speaker A:I told you this over the weekend.
Speaker A:Jocko Willock is famous for saying, like, everybody wants to have, everyone's grateful to have freedom, but nobody wants to know the price you have to pay for that freedom.
Speaker B:And it's expensive.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's expensive.
Speaker B:So let's be clear about a couple things, okay?
Speaker B:The toxicity of social media is an international problem.
Speaker B:It's not unique to the United States.
Speaker B:The lack of trust in politicians spans the span of time and history.
Speaker B:And it's international, okay?
Speaker B:The Greeks, the Romans, Genghis Khan, I mean, money and power have the, the, how many Chinese dynasties throughout, throughout history.
Speaker B:I mean the, the Persians empires have risen and fallen.
Speaker B:This is not unique to us.
Speaker B:Now for us to think that these problems are idiosyncratic to our world now just shows how naive we are.
Speaker B:We still don't know how so many things were built.
Speaker B:I had a fascinating theory the other night.
Speaker B:I was up late at night, I couldn't sleep.
Speaker B:My usual pattern of practice, right?
Speaker B:And I know Rujus looking at me like he thinks some pervert is going to happen, but it's not yet.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's only after an hour of the show.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:You guys ever see Driving to San Diego?
Speaker B:The San Onofre, the power plant?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Oh, there you go, right there.
Speaker B:I know you're thinking boobies.
Speaker B:Calm down.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, but let's actually look at the movie.
Speaker B:Let's think through the boobies a little bit.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:So they're basically, basically giant round domes with like a nipple like structure at the top of it, right?
Speaker C:You don't say.
Speaker B:Yeah, and there's two of them side by side.
Speaker B:Hence the reason why they look like boobies.
Speaker B:This is, this is a science based conversation.
Speaker B:I'm just trying to give people a very clear visual, very symmetrical.
Speaker B:If you could pull up the San Andofy power plant.
Speaker B:If you can pull a picture of that.
Speaker B:Perfect.
Speaker B:Look at that.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Oh, I'm already on it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know.
Speaker B:Okay, while, while this is happening, do me a favor, try to pull up on a different browser a picture of Giza.
Speaker B:The Great Pyramid or the pyramids of Giza.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay, so look here, right?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Got two large domes with a little pointy portion up top.
Speaker B:Those Are power plants.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And most nuclear power plants are close to water.
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:You need water to cool the nuclear reactors, efficient reactors.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Now here are the pyramids.
Speaker B:But the pyramids actually looked very different back in the day.
Speaker B:They had quartz, shiny outside.
Speaker B:Quartz, I think quartz or limestone on the outside.
Speaker B:See if you can find that.
Speaker B:Google, see if you can find the way the pyramids originally looked.
Speaker B:And at the top, the, the tip of the pyramid was a gold.
Speaker B:It's rumored to be a gold like little piece of the top, like the nipple of the pyramid.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:If you look at the two of those, you look at our nuclear power plants and you look at them again.
Speaker B:So let's just go over list here.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Wasn't there something that came out not too long ago with like they found out that there was a huge underground, underground structure, but also water underneath the structure.
Speaker B:Well, the water thing, there's always been.
Speaker A:A water, the huge like spring underneath.
Speaker B:So the Nile river, which runs farther away.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:So if you look at the top, that one right there, the second one.
Speaker B:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker B:Perfect.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So the top of that there, when it was originally done, they.
Speaker B:So it had like a white shiny exterior and the top was a gold tip.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And there's several pyramids that are very close together, just like our nuclear power power plant reactors.
Speaker B:There's two of them there.
Speaker B:There's two of them.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:For all we know, these were just power plants.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But we think we were so superior in our technology that we're special in time.
Speaker B:Our problems are special to us.
Speaker B:Or maybe, just maybe, they're not.
Speaker B:And entire populations of humanity went literally extinct because they thought the same stupid shit too.
Speaker B:They thought they were special.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:When in reality, we don't even know.
Speaker B:We don't know yet.
Speaker B:We like to manifest our problems to be like the world's biggest problem.
Speaker A:So what's the explanation for the limestone, like going away?
Speaker B:It's just more of erodible material versus the inside of it, which is harder.
Speaker B:Look, I'm not here to claim any differences, but some things you didn't know for facts around the pyramids, which are interesting too, is the Nile used to run right by them and now they're saying, well, maybe the stones were on boats that got there.
Speaker B:Maybe that's how it worked out.
Speaker B:When the Nile was rerouted over time to where it's at currently, the water table underneath flooded a lot of the underground space there.
Speaker B:So there is water, the water table underneath as well.
Speaker B:There's also A dam.
Speaker B:I think that was put up at some point in time.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But I'm, again, not.
Speaker B:Not the point of the show.
Speaker B:And it's just.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:But I, you know, I look at the two of these and I think to myself, like, why do we think we're so special?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because we did things in a way that.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That we're currently here.
Speaker B:And because we're currently here, thus you must be superior.
Speaker B:And then you look at like, okay, all these people on social media that are virtue signaling, like, look, this is my tribe.
Speaker B:This is my tribe.
Speaker B:This is my tribe.
Speaker B:They don't want to hear from other people.
Speaker B:It's like, okay, but at the same time, isn't the way you grow by exposing yourself to other people?
Speaker A:That's the whole point of college, Right?
Speaker A:That's what it used to be.
Speaker A:Expose yourself to other people, other opinions, other ideas, a safe place for people to have these discussions openly.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:That's the whole.
Speaker A:That was the whole point.
Speaker B:I'll use another great example that.
Speaker B:So I just watched the S4 documentary of Bob Lazar and S4, and yeah,.
Speaker A:I gotta get on that.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It's really interesting.
Speaker B:Little 10 bucks for a rental for 48 hours.
Speaker B:Like, that should be $5 for 48 hours.
Speaker B:Like, I don't want to be like the price guy.
Speaker A:But no, you gotta be the price guy.
Speaker B:Inflation has gotten to that point.
Speaker B:Now I gotta pay you $10 for a 48 hour for a digital rental that cost you nothing.
Speaker A:Some of the.
Speaker A:Some of Adam's teammates, the moms, are saying, like, now what they do is they.
Speaker A:Because the movie theaters have gotten so expensive, they.
Speaker A:They just drop their kids off.
Speaker A:They go, I will not even buy the ticket for myself.
Speaker A:Drop the kids off, buy them the snacks.
Speaker A:Go have the kids go inside.
Speaker A:I'll be waiting for you outside here.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was like $80 for two kids to go in and watch a movie with all their snacks and everything.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, I would not do that personally, but, yeah, that's.
Speaker A:I mean, yeah, I mean, it's just crazy.
Speaker B:So I was watching the.
Speaker B:The Bob Lazar thing, right?
Speaker B:And another thought occurred to me.
Speaker B:In science, the way it's supposed to work is you guys all collaborate.
Speaker B:You guys all work together because you get like the.
Speaker B:The physicists, you get the geologists, you get the metallurgist, you get the chemist.
Speaker B:And everybody has a different subject matter expertise.
Speaker B:And when they work together, they generally have much more.
Speaker B:Much more forward movement on engineering and traction and put together ideas because you have all These different schools of thought and different practices that come together.
Speaker B:Whereas if I am a metallurgist, right, and I'm working on something, but in order to get answers, I've got to query the government, the government's got to go to the other scientists, get the answer back for me.
Speaker B:They filter out what I can't see.
Speaker B:Back and forth takes time, it's not efficient.
Speaker B:Plus, we, we can't have an open dialogue and we're not sharing the experience of working on something together.
Speaker B:So you're very much insulated now.
Speaker B:This is great if you want to keep secrets, right.
Speaker B:This is great if you want to control a narrative.
Speaker B:But we are now self selecting into that way of working by diving down into the niches on social media that we're interested in and an algorithm that continually feeds us our niche and nothing else.
Speaker B:So you think that it's okay to do some of the extreme stuff that you're doing because everybody in your niche is doing those same extreme things.
Speaker B:Right, right, right.
Speaker B:And you don't.
Speaker B:You' ostracized for it anymore.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:One of the biggest complaints about Egypt and Egyptologists is that they're so dogmatic about the culture because they want to say, we are Egyptians, we built this.
Speaker B:Well, what if they didn't?
Speaker B:Yeah, what if they appropriated?
Speaker B:They're like, oh, the pharaoh's names are on the pyramids.
Speaker B:Well, a lot of those pheromones.
Speaker B:Pheromones.
Speaker B:A lot of those pharaohs were known to just carve their name into stuff.
Speaker B:It's pretty obvious.
Speaker B:Stuff that's out there, that's different.
Speaker B:And I'm sitting here looking at a lot of way we interact now, and we think we're so much better, more sophisticated from a technology standpoint.
Speaker B:We're not.
Speaker B:We're doing the exact same thing.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:We're doing the exact same thing.
Speaker A:I don't know if I, if I go like bird's eye view and I take a look at the landscape of everything it.
Speaker A:With everything that's going on right now, you know, think of geopolitics, think of what's happening, you know, within our own nation.
Speaker A:It does not feel like we got to figure it out.
Speaker B:I don't know that we do.
Speaker B:I don't know we ever will.
Speaker B:And I don't know that complaining about it will get us anywhere.
Speaker B:But, you know, who does have it figured out?
Speaker B:Saeed?
Speaker A:Who's got to figure it out?
Speaker A:Christopher?
Speaker B:All birds, bro.
Speaker B:All birds has got it figured out.
Speaker B:So the backstory here.
Speaker A:Let me give you a Little backstory, too, because I got notes on this that you can.
Speaker B:Are you ready for this?
Speaker B:I didn't tell you.
Speaker B:We're doing this.
Speaker A:The all bird story.
Speaker A: IPO'd in: Speaker A:2021.
Speaker B:They were supposed to.
Speaker B:They were like eco friendly, like environmental friendly.
Speaker A:Silicon Valley's favorite shoe.
Speaker B:They were a darling.
Speaker B:And everybody in Silicon Valley was rocking the Allbirds, right?
Speaker B:I remember.
Speaker A:I remember.
Speaker C:I still have a pair.
Speaker A:You still have a pair?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:I never ended up getting a pair, but I know people that.
Speaker A:They liked it.
Speaker A:I never had.
Speaker B:I never had a pair.
Speaker B:But then, I mean, flash forward you got on, you got.
Speaker B:What's the other one?
Speaker B:Everybody on Cloud.
Speaker A:My wife.
Speaker A:My wife likes those.
Speaker B:She likes the other ones.
Speaker B:There's another one that came out that's.
Speaker B:It's pretty big, too.
Speaker A:Golden Goose.
Speaker B:No Sketchers.
Speaker A:No, don't do that.
Speaker B:Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:Skechers is crazy, bro.
Speaker B:I don't know what to say to you about you.
Speaker A:Although.
Speaker A:Although, I will say there's.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:There are NBA players that are sponsored by Skechers.
Speaker A:They have, I guess, a basketball line.
Speaker A:Now I'm like, don't do that, bro.
Speaker A:That's Sketcher.
Speaker A:Basketball shoes.
Speaker A:Crazy Sketcher.
Speaker B:It's kind of sketchy.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was a gimme.
Speaker B:I had to take that.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't know about the other one, but let's see.
Speaker A: So IPO in: Speaker A:It lost 99% of its value.
Speaker B:Hoka Shoes.
Speaker A:Oh, Hoka.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Way too much cushion.
Speaker A:Way too much cushion with all that.
Speaker B:Ass you got on the side of the table.
Speaker B:You don't like the big cushions?
Speaker A:No, because you know what happens?
Speaker A:You know what happens with it with, like the.
Speaker A:The big.
Speaker A:A lot of cushion shoes.
Speaker B:There's too much bounce in the ass and the shoes at the same time.
Speaker A:Too much jiggle.
Speaker B:Too much jiggle.
Speaker A:Way too much jiggle.
Speaker A:Can't have a serious conversation with you.
Speaker A:So all birds lost 99 of its value.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:It closed every single store it had in the US right?
Speaker A:It saw it, sold the entire brand for $39 million and rebanded, rebranded itself Bird AI.
Speaker B:So first of all, let's pause right there.
Speaker B:Sold the entire shoe brand to the same company that owns.
Speaker B:Come on, guys.
Speaker B:I can't be the only one.
Speaker A:Tell me.
Speaker B:Richard, look this up, because I want you to look on site space.
Speaker B:You really don't know?
Speaker A:No, I know it's institutional Ed Hardy, baby.
Speaker A:Oh, Come on.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:It's back.
Speaker C:American Exchange Group.
Speaker B:American Exchange Group.
Speaker B:Who owns Ed Hardy Aerosols.
Speaker B:Yeah, Aerosol or whatever.
Speaker B:Aeropols, Whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They own a bunch of stores and nobody's ever gonna shop out again.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's where brands go to die.
Speaker B:So they sold the shoes off to them and they rebranded the company.
Speaker B:What was it?
Speaker B:AI.
Speaker A:New bird AI.
Speaker B:They popped that day 800% on the stock price.
Speaker B:800%.
Speaker A:And the spin.
Speaker B:Is this kidding me?
Speaker A:And this is the spin.
Speaker A:And then Chris could break it down into layman's terms for all of us.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Oh, yes.
Speaker A:So now using $50 million on hand to buy GP and compete with AWS.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:They made a pivot in its business to AI compute infrastructure.
Speaker A:It has a long term vision to become a fully integrated GPU service company and an AI native service cloud solutions provider.
Speaker A:What the hell?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So the assumption is that with all the data centers that are supposed to come online but that are now delayed, and with the agentic AI more than.
Speaker A: y, between now and the end of: Speaker B:And with agentic AI becoming such a popular thing.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That as people gradually shift to agentic AI other than LLMs.
Speaker B:LLMs, you query, agentic AI will run for you and run tasks for you.
Speaker B:This whole point of agentic AI.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So it's going to continually just take more just because of what it is.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like if you want your agent to be available for emails and you know, as an assistant, you're just going to be working with it more than an LLM.
Speaker B:And that's what they charge you, tokens, as opposed to like a flat fee.
Speaker B:Because they know they can just take all the juice.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:You're going to pay those token fees.
Speaker B:You my.
Speaker B:Yeah, a token bitch.
Speaker A:You go paych.
Speaker A:I bet you pay them.
Speaker B:Me?
Speaker B:Yeah, they got me for a thousand dollars last month.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they know you're going to come back for maybe another thousand API calls.
Speaker B:I was pissed.
Speaker B:I was heated.
Speaker B:So heated that I still kept using it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker B:So anyway, I'm like, oh, I'm just iterating here.
Speaker B:If I want to stop the iterating and I go back to the normal like usage, it's going to go down.
Speaker A:Convincing yourself this is like you at the craps table.
Speaker B:You need.
Speaker A:I need a bankroll.
Speaker A:Once I get that.
Speaker B:I see the hit once.
Speaker A:Come on.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was a whole problem.
Speaker B:But anyway, so the whole theory Is, is that GPU usage?
Speaker B:So cloud GPU usage is coming a big thing, right?
Speaker B:A great, A great example is machine learning.
Speaker B:You can literally rent cloud usage to get the GPU access so that your GPU can process.
Speaker B:Because a CPU is.
Speaker B:You're basically your computer processing, you know, on a computer.
Speaker B:A GPU is a more advanced, more complex processing power.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So think of it like.
Speaker A:So I guess what, aws, that's Amazon Web Services, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:AWS provides a lot of we services, including cloud based gpu.
Speaker A:So like, for companies that don't have the money or the ability or the capability of building out this type of infrastructure, you can now rent it, you know, from them.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And I do.
Speaker B:I use AWS for a number of products.
Speaker B:A lot of the back end of a lot of websites in America run on aws, which is why every time AWS goes down or Amazon goes down, people don't understand.
Speaker B:Like, Amazon's great for the products you buy on them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But they have an entire enterprise delivery product, you know, subsystem for all of the cloud based services, Internet hosting, you name it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Their ecosystem is deep.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, deep.
Speaker B:The voice really kicked off.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:That's, that's not appropriate.
Speaker B:We have to cut that out of the show.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:I can't do that.
Speaker A:Huh?
Speaker A:Cut it out.
Speaker B:I'm not cutting that out.
Speaker A:Yes, you are.
Speaker A:Timestamp it.
Speaker B:Do me a favor.
Speaker B:Look up.
Speaker B:Look up or not Google it.
Speaker A:Yeah, on his profile.
Speaker A:Stop talking about it.
Speaker B:You're gonna have to keep cutting it out.
Speaker B:I'm leaving it all in, brother.
Speaker A:This is a job interview, bro.
Speaker A:What are you talking about?
Speaker B:Oh, how you feeling right now?
Speaker B:You feeling warm?
Speaker A:We're taking people behind the scenes, doc.
Speaker B:Now we're taking people from behind.
Speaker A:I think they can bring up.
Speaker A:I can bring up the serious conversation you wanted to have before the show.
Speaker B:Me.
Speaker B:No, you can't do that.
Speaker B:You can't do that.
Speaker B:I still think that's.
Speaker B:Well, first of all, mine is still less offensive than yours.
Speaker A:That's not true.
Speaker B:That's not totally true.
Speaker B:True.
Speaker B:Okay, I'll have the conversation now if you want to get this, you wanted this.
Speaker A:No, no, I can't do that.
Speaker B:I don't do that.
Speaker B:All right, so look, Amazon provides these services.
Speaker B:There is a shortage that is likely to be coming because of the amount of usage that's coming in the cloud compute space.
Speaker B:And I do believe wholeheartedly that the LLM model will die slow death as people transition to agentic AI as the kind of like, that is where the AI basis, where you start off with is.
Speaker B:And then eventually everybody will have some kind of AGI when we get way over there.
Speaker B:So I look at this as a very different thing than the press release.
Speaker B:I look at this as an AI company.
Speaker B:He could have started an AI company, or they could start an AI company.
Speaker B:They said, you know what?
Speaker B:We have a brand.
Speaker B:We have a publicly traded stock.
Speaker B:Let's just use it.
Speaker B:Let's just use it as a big media marketing tool.
Speaker B:Yeah, you'd have to get a shareholder vote.
Speaker B:You have to do a lot of things.
Speaker B:It's effectively like a restructuring, but nonetheless, it's just a really good marketing play.
Speaker A:So let's see here.
Speaker B:But here's the fascinating thing.
Speaker B:Rejeel, Google search this up for me.
Speaker B: Long Island Iced tea, that in: Speaker B:And I did not know this.
Speaker B:They went Long Island.
Speaker A:I see Arizona Iced Tea.
Speaker B:No, Never heard of them.
Speaker B: I see some IC company,: Speaker A:That's pretty.
Speaker A:I mean, yeah.
Speaker B:And they were publicly traded too.
Speaker B:Can you find it?
Speaker A:So they had.
Speaker A:They just had a pop and they sold, and then it started selling.
Speaker B:I was stunned because I.
Speaker B:Here you go.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:Right there.
Speaker B: December: Speaker B:Long Island Iced Tea Corp.
Speaker B:Formal former Ticker LT.
Speaker B:I mean, come on.
Speaker B:Obviously, right?
Speaker C:That's pretty good.
Speaker B:A small beverage maker rebranded Long Blockchain Corp. LBCC to pivot toward bitcoin mining in blockchain technology.
Speaker A:All I want.
Speaker A:All I want in life is for you to take a company that big public and to see what you would name the ticker symbol.
Speaker B:It was a chicken company.
Speaker B:It'd be cop.
Speaker A:I just know you'd get so creative.
Speaker B:If it was a nuclear power company, it'd be tits.
Speaker B:See, I knew you had a peptide company.
Speaker B:It'd be juice.
Speaker B:Juice.
Speaker B:Yeah,.
Speaker A:I know, I know.
Speaker B:You got it.
Speaker A:So long.
Speaker A:Blockchain Corp. LBCC to pivot toward bitcoin mining and blockchain technology.
Speaker A:This move occurred during the height of.
Speaker A: Of the: Speaker B:You know, my bank ticker would be, what?
Speaker B:Is that rich?
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't know SAT vocabulary, but I got four letter words all day long.
Speaker A:Honestly, just keep it simple, you know, it doesn't have to be complicated.
Speaker A:Just be Simple.
Speaker B:Or just come up with a company whose like acronym is fux.
Speaker B:F U X.
Speaker A:Give zero of them.
Speaker B:Financial Utilization Exchange.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You Trading Fox?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just to hear Kramer say it, I'm.
Speaker B:All in on Fox.
Speaker C:There is one.
Speaker C:It's called the Formosan Union Chemical Corp. Oh, fuck yeah.
Speaker A:Asset Resolution.
Speaker B:Formosan Union.
Speaker B:Union.
Speaker B:You got to find out 10 what they do.
Speaker B:What is Formosan Union?
Speaker B:Is that.
Speaker B:Is that the nasdaq?
Speaker B:Nye.
Speaker B:What are they?
Speaker B:What are they?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:That can't be on the nyse.
Speaker A:You would have known.
Speaker B:Funniest talks.
Speaker B:Stock stickers.
Speaker B:Almost.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Huh.
Speaker A:Let's see what's number one?
Speaker C:Oh, Cummings.
Speaker C:Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:She stopped.
Speaker B:Stop.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker A:This show went off the rails, bro.
Speaker A:Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker A:Yours.
Speaker B:Haas.
Speaker B:Etf is slim.
Speaker A:Oh, there's another.
Speaker A:Oh, Heiney Frineken.
Speaker B:Heine is a pretty good one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Bots.
Speaker B:That's cute.
Speaker B:Bbw.
Speaker A:What does that mean?
Speaker B:Race.
Speaker A:Huh?
Speaker A:What is.
Speaker B:It means build a bear workshop site.
Speaker B:Build a bear workshop.
Speaker A:Why is it supposed to be funny?
Speaker A:I don't understand.
Speaker B:Love Southwest Airlines.
Speaker B:Lame.
Speaker B:Actually, should probably be.
Speaker B:Hate cake.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:Cheesecake Factory.
Speaker A:That's nice.
Speaker A:Pizza.
Speaker A:Lame.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:I could do this all day long.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Gosh fizz.
Speaker B:Eat those sorts of car and it's kind of lame.
Speaker B:Chicken nuggets.
Speaker B:N U G T Cure Seed.
Speaker B:Tan X Ray.
Speaker C:Oh, Coin for Coinbase.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's the one you get excited about.
Speaker B:Coin for Coinbase.
Speaker A:Coin.
Speaker B:All right, all right.
Speaker B:So the whole point of this, Long Island.
Speaker B:So I. I was not aware that companies had done this before.
Speaker B:Like, I. I was.
Speaker B:I was just a hard pivot like that.
Speaker B:That's a hard pivot.
Speaker B:And you have to take shareholder vote.
Speaker B:You can't just do this, right?
Speaker B:Especially if you're a public company.
Speaker B:There's shareholders.
Speaker B:You got to.
Speaker B:But take a vote.
Speaker B:There's a whole, like, thing that goes into that.
Speaker B:So to see that people are that.
Speaker A:Willing, I mean, it's lost 99.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:It's not like this thing was, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's gonna get some value out of it.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:So I think the shareholders were like, yeah, man, whatever.
Speaker A:For me, recoup some of this, please.
Speaker B:Still pretty bad.
Speaker A:I mean, it's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's pretty bad.
Speaker C:They had great sales at their outlets.
Speaker C:If you bought like three shoes, you get 70 off your order.
Speaker A:Yeah, that sounds like.
Speaker A:That doesn't sound like a sale.
Speaker A:That sounds like a liquidation.
Speaker A:Please, we need to get rid of this inventory?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, probably.
Speaker A:I never.
Speaker B:I never got into those shit.
Speaker B:Never got into On Running Cloud.
Speaker B:Never got into the Hokas.
Speaker B:Never got into those.
Speaker A:I got one pair of AWS that was gifted to me by the.
Speaker A:The great people over at Pleasures.
Speaker A:They did a collab with On.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:So you've been getting post show pleasures?
Speaker A:Are you really?
Speaker B:Oh, was that after the show?
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:You guys do, too.
Speaker A:They said, anything you guys ever want to go on the website, let me know.
Speaker B:So you went on the website and you said, I want these?
Speaker A:No, I just told him because I. I saw him one time and I was like, by the way, he just had a kid.
Speaker A:Jason had a kid.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker A:And you.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:You didn't congratulate him.
Speaker B:No, because I'm not trying to get all up in his personal life.
Speaker A:What do you mean?
Speaker A:You can't just say, congrats on the baby, bro.
Speaker B:No, I did.
Speaker A:I did it on behalf of all of us because they knew you, you jerks.
Speaker B:You did it because you wanted shoes, though.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:I got.
Speaker A:I got the shoes already and then I did it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, so you did it because you got shoes?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:That's what you just said.
Speaker A:Jason's a sweetheart of a guy.
Speaker B:He's a great guy.
Speaker B:I liked him.
Speaker B:I liked him.
Speaker C:He got you the shoes before he did the recording?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they did a collab with On Cloud.
Speaker A:And I'm not gonna lie, they're.
Speaker A:They're really comfortable.
Speaker B:They do collabs with everybody.
Speaker B:How do we get collabs like that?
Speaker A:Dude, they did collab with.
Speaker A:What's the.
Speaker A:The Daft Funk.
Speaker A:Daft Punk?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't have the bookmarks up there.
Speaker B:There still.
Speaker B:The ones that you allowed me to keep here in the studio because I never let you talk on the show.
Speaker A:You're welcome.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's not good.
Speaker A:I didn't have a place for him at home.
Speaker A:I figured they'd stay here.
Speaker A:Kidding.
Speaker B:She gotta work with Virgil.
Speaker C:What happened to the bidet, though?
Speaker A:What bidet?
Speaker C:The one from Tushy.
Speaker A:He took it home, bro.
Speaker A:You tell me you took it home.
Speaker A:Are you using it?
Speaker B:No, it needs a plug behind the wall.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:And I don't want to, like, tear up the drywall to put a plug in without remodeling the bathrooms.
Speaker B:And I keep telling myself I'm gonna remodel the bathrooms, but I don't have time to do it.
Speaker A:Remodel the bathroom does take a long time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Full remodel or just a shower?
Speaker A:Remodel?
Speaker B:No, I'm doing a full remodel.
Speaker B:Here's the problem.
Speaker B:Me being like the contractor.
Speaker B:And me, I'm cool with all the remodel except for one part that stops me from getting going.
Speaker B:There's only one part that stops from getting going.
Speaker B:Anybody want to guess what it is?
Speaker A:Flooring.
Speaker B:Tile flooring.
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker B:To take yet the.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:Get the tile up.
Speaker A:I did that at my house.
Speaker B:And the one problem that I always have, taking the tile out is no problem.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's making sure the concrete's level or the subfloor is level before you start doing.
Speaker A:No, once you do that and you get down to the subfloor, you just put Hardy backer down.
Speaker C:Well, then it's still going to be uneven.
Speaker C:You got to be a liquid level.
Speaker B:You have a liquid level down if you just put Hardy backer over, like the.
Speaker B:The plywood subfloor.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker B:You got to put liquid level down and level it out.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I. I always that up every single time I've ever done that.
Speaker A:I feel like this time you're gonna get it, though.
Speaker B:Nope.
Speaker B:This time I'm gonna get someone else to do it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But hey, Doc, the flooring.
Speaker B:You know who's not gonna do it for me, though?
Speaker A:Uncle Ben.
Speaker B:Uncle Ben.
Speaker A:Not gonna do it for you.
Speaker B:Sides Handyman refuses to ever do any.
Speaker A:Work because he looks at people who got money and then he's like, she got money.
Speaker B:I don't have money.
Speaker A:You got all the money.
Speaker B:It's called stagflation.
Speaker A:Saeed, what is stagflation?
Speaker B:Stagflation.
Speaker A:Head over to the YouTube channel where we dropped our first piece of educational content.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Stagflation V. Inflation, where I talked a lot about stagflation.
Speaker A:And you're gonna hear that term dropped a lot recently, especially with the energy shocks.
Speaker B:I don't know why we haven't been saying we're in a stagflationary economy.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:I mean, this is what this is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:This is what this whole thing has been all along.
Speaker B:That's why people feel the way they do.
Speaker B:Stagflation's biggest impact is a psychological one.
Speaker B:I think people under underestimate the psychological impact of slow, painful stagflation.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:It's like with an inflationary economy, you still can't pay for things, but there's hope because the economy's so prosperous.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:The stagflationary economy.
Speaker B:The economy is not prosperous.
Speaker B:Everything costs more, and you're not making more.
Speaker B:You're making effectively the same and net.
Speaker B:Net of inflation.
Speaker B:You're losing money.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And the last time we were in a situation like this, the way out of it.
Speaker A:We will not be able to do this time around.
Speaker B:OnlyFans.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wiki beat.
Speaker B:You think that dies, by the way?
Speaker B:Only fans.
Speaker C:Damn that.
Speaker A:It dies.
Speaker A:I, I mean, I don't, I don't know any.
Speaker A:I, I don't know a single person that actually uses it.
Speaker B:That's a convenient narrative for you.
Speaker B:No, I get it.
Speaker B:You like.
Speaker B:No, do you know.
Speaker A:No, no, seriously.
Speaker A:Do you.
Speaker A:All jokes put aside.
Speaker A:Do you, do you know anybody that has used only fans?
Speaker A:I have not.
Speaker B:I have never met anybody who's actually.
Speaker A:Admitted, like openly admitted.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's.
Speaker A:It's, it's really, it's like, like worse.
Speaker B:Than the only reason.
Speaker B:I know the only fans.
Speaker A:People are more comfortable admitting that they watch porn than they are, you know, subscribing to only.
Speaker B:Can I ask a real rogue question since this is already a way off topic show?
Speaker B:Like, I, I'm sorry, this is gonna be bad.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm just telling you right now.
Speaker B:I'm hopefully gonna outdo your previous bad comment here.
Speaker B:You're taking that one out?
Speaker B:I'm taking that one out.
Speaker B:Go on.
Speaker B:I can bleep it out.
Speaker B:But how are we gonna.
Speaker B:I mean, the people gonna know.
Speaker A:This is a job interview, bro.
Speaker B:Go.
Speaker A:You can cut the camera angle to behind me.
Speaker B:I don't know, man.
Speaker B:Yeah, you can't do it again.
Speaker B:This, this is me.
Speaker B:I'm cheap.
Speaker B:I know that.
Speaker B:I'm cheap.
Speaker B:Are you?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, there's.
Speaker B:There's some things I'll splurge on and there's things that I won't.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But there are things that I just cannot justify.
Speaker B:I used to fly first class.
Speaker B:I don't think I'm ever going to do that again.
Speaker B:I just can't just fight.
Speaker A:I would never do that.
Speaker B:It seems like a completely terrible waste of money.
Speaker C:Yeah, I, I will always do it if I get a free upgrade.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, free upgrade.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker B:That's the point.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's not you buying first class.
Speaker B:I don't think you should.
Speaker B:I mean, especially if you're going like here to.
Speaker B:Here to like New York.
Speaker B:Okay, maybe.
Speaker B:Maybe first class.
Speaker B:But even then I'm like, I can't just.
Speaker B:I mean, for like five thousands of dollars more.
Speaker A:Five hours.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean even then I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker B:I used to be able to.
Speaker B:So here's what I don't understand about the only fans thing.
Speaker B:Porn is free now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, there are websites for this.
Speaker B:I mean, I. I know in some states they're blocked and stuff like that.
Speaker A:Like, what's the draw?
Speaker A:Is the draw.
Speaker A:Like, I get exclusive content, but all.
Speaker B:These only fans girls have stuff on these other sites.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, that's how they.
Speaker B:Because again, I don't know for sure.
Speaker B:So it's speculation on my part, but, like, very convenient, all of them.
Speaker B:I know who these people are because of social media, because traditional media and some of the extreme stuff they do, which makes the media, which I'm assuming is what gets them people to go to their.
Speaker B:Their pages.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But some only fans people aren't, like, having sex with people.
Speaker B:They're just doing, like, nude photos and stuff.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah, I remember that back in the day, there was the Fighter and the Kid podcast.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They had, like, one of their people, like, behind the camera.
Speaker B:They still do that podcast?
Speaker A:Guess they still do it.
Speaker A:It's not the same.
Speaker A:They've, I think, lost some sponsorships, but they're still doing it because they enjoy each other's company.
Speaker B:They lost some sponsorships?
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:Shows.
Speaker A:I don't think the show's growing as much as it.
Speaker A:It was at one point.
Speaker B:No, podcast is right now.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're all taking hits.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's super saturated.
Speaker B:Everybody I know, it's big, big in podcasting has told me that.
Speaker B:That there's no growth at all right now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
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Speaker A:But they had a girl that was working, like, behind the, you know, the desk for them who would bring up, like, current events and whatnot.
Speaker A:She had a side gig, too, where she was doing only fans, and it was like, I guess, provocative.
Speaker A:She would say provocative images, but she would never show anything.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Why would you pay for that?
Speaker A:I guess people were.
Speaker A:She was on the show at the time.
Speaker A:She said that she was making, like, five, ten grand a month.
Speaker B:Yeah, see, I don't.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I fundamentally don't understand this.
Speaker A:It has to be something like a psycho, a psychological play, Right.
Speaker A:Like, where it's like, you feel like you're getting something and, like, oh, maybe one day she'll just flip the script and, like, show everything.
Speaker B:Well, and then, okay, fine.
Speaker B:But Even with that, like some people think they're talking to these girls and you're not.
Speaker B:You're talking to the third party companies that are running this for the girls.
Speaker B:And they just.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Or their bots are.
Speaker A:Or the whole page is AI.
Speaker A:You see those?
Speaker A:And they like.
Speaker A:And the guys, even though they, they might even know and still keep coming back because they just like.
Speaker A:Because they don't know themselves how to curate images like that or create a religion, they want to come to somebody that provides that for them.
Speaker B:So weird to me.
Speaker B:I don't understand it in this day and age.
Speaker B:Like, I legitimately do not understand.
Speaker A:And this is the kind of stuff that worries me.
Speaker A:I worry about when it comes to like just society as a whole.
Speaker A:Like, where are we going?
Speaker C:I think there's a lot of lonely people out there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:How does that make you to me?
Speaker B:If I paid to.
Speaker B:To be along somebody's only fans page,.
Speaker A:Like the number one scams, like I wanted to make one of my first pieces of educational content was to be on like, you know, popular scams right there for people to be aware of.
Speaker A:And when I was doing my research for it, one of the most popular ones is, you know, lonely men.
Speaker A:Lonely men get hit up a lot.
Speaker C:It's like 90 Day Fiance.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Where like you feel like you're getting into a relationship with somebody and then bang, they hit you over the head with, I can't meet you.
Speaker A:But because I got into this car accident.
Speaker A:Can you please help me?
Speaker A:Can you send over some money?
Speaker A:And like people fall for that all the time.
Speaker B:I don't get it.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's like because you, yeah.
Speaker A:You're trying to, you're trying to rational something.
Speaker A:That's irrational.
Speaker A:That's the problem.
Speaker B:I just, I fundamentally rationalize.
Speaker B:I mean, I just fundamentally don't understand like so much of it though.
Speaker B:Like there's so much is that I don't get.
Speaker B:Like, okay, well that's because you, you.
Speaker A:Have a completely different perspective on life.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like you, like for us, this is the thing we, we've done the whole scene where we went out, we met people, we spoke to people.
Speaker A:We understand how people interact and actually how it works.
Speaker A:If you are really engaging with somebody and have a connection with somebody, you know what that looks like for somebody that like, imagine a kid that's grown up today's day and age, that has had no interaction with the real world, is too shy to ever go speak to anybody and is only used to online relationships, bro.
Speaker A:They can get scammed easily all Day because they're just hopeful to, for that one connection that.
Speaker B:See, this makes.
Speaker B:No, I mean, I guess part of this is like the, the hormone changes that are happening with boys and girls where like there's less because of the microplastics and toxicity.
Speaker B:And it's, it's not, this is not guessing, this is not speculation.
Speaker B:This is not even conspiracy theory.
Speaker B:It's well documented that every generation of males for the last like three, four generations has had lower testosterone on average than the previous generation has.
Speaker B:And I think that the trickle down effects of that are really starting to impact the way we function as a side.
Speaker B:It's weird, man.
Speaker B:Like, I, I don't, I don't even know how to like, first of all, like, it's just the human basic interaction stuff that bothers me the most.
Speaker B:Like I don't care like who you are, what you're into, but if you can't go out to someplace and meet whatever it is that you're into because you're too shy to do it.
Speaker A:Too afraid.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Or too afraid to do it like that.
Speaker B:That's a deep seated psychological issue.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:Like, are you guys gonna do anything to make sure, like your kids aren't like that?
Speaker B:I don't know that you can.
Speaker A:I mean, if, yeah.
Speaker A:At some point, if you feel like you're starting to notice that your kid's not willing to go, like make friends or doesn't want to go to the park to play with other kids.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Just, just is becoming more and more shy.
Speaker A:I feel like this is something you can get ahead of, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah, it is.
Speaker A:You know, like just forcing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Not.
Speaker A:Yeah, not like forcing like, hey, go talk to that kid right there.
Speaker A:Right now.
Speaker A:But it's like, you know, set them up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Set them up for success.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like just go.
Speaker A:You have, have them interact with other people.
Speaker A:Because I do think it's some, it's a skill that can be learned, you know, how to interact with other people and how to have conversations with people.
Speaker A:Like, I, right now I'm trying to have both our kids, like anytime we get together with like our cousins over dinner or something, I'm like, don't be.
Speaker A:First of all, you know, no technology at the table.
Speaker A:You're old enough now to where you don't need that.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And when we're sitting there, don't just sit there as kids.
Speaker A:Everyone at this table wants to talk to you.
Speaker A:Start, find a way to start a conversation with somebody.
Speaker A:At the end, everyone's going to want to talk to you so ask them.
Speaker A:Like, you're gonna sit there and you're gonna.
Speaker A:You know that.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Adam wants to.
Speaker A:He says, right now, I want to be an engineer.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:The person at the table is an engineer.
Speaker A:How are you not going to ask them how they got there?
Speaker A:How are you not going to ask them what kind of engineer are you?
Speaker B:Adam wants to be an engineer.
Speaker A:That's what he says.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:My son, too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, I love talking to old people.
Speaker A:You love.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:The wisdom.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Most people are older than me because, you know, my job, I've always been a little more successful than my age.
Speaker B:Everybody I've always been close to has been older than me.
Speaker B:Matter of fact, some of my closest friends right now are in their 60s.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:And Hugo, like, Hugo's like a brother, man.
Speaker B:Like, I love that dude, Scott.
Speaker B:You know, we're super close.
Speaker B:I talk to those two guys every single day.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they're both in, like, their mid-60s.
Speaker B:And that's just.
Speaker B:That's just who.
Speaker B:I mean, I've always had people around, driven.
Speaker A:You're more of an old soul.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't even know it's that.
Speaker B:I just think that, you know, you.
Speaker B:There's something to be said for the circle you keep will either help you grow or help you stay where you are.
Speaker B:Very few people have a circle that's going to hold them down, but certainly.
Speaker B:Oh, God, I'm going to do this.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So there's a group of friends I used to hang out with.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I don't know anything about most of them today, so I'm guessing on a lot, but I guarantee you most of them are still doing the exact same thing they were 20 years ago.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:I know a few people like that, too.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker B:That's not a knock.
Speaker B:Like, some of them might find happiness there, but some of them, I know, deeply wanted more, but never got the courage to risk the look.
Speaker B:That's the thing that bothers me a lot about just general society today.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, and I'll use myself as an example of this.
Speaker B:In the banking space, I was very much demonized for my willingness to do things that they saw as embarrassing.
Speaker B:Oh, social media page, YouTube.
Speaker B:Oh, you're a banker.
Speaker B:You're not supposed to have that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Why.
Speaker B:Why are you doing that now?
Speaker B:Literally, not even years later, A couple, like, a year later, you know.
Speaker A:A year.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:There are CEOs of banks that have their own podcast now.
Speaker A:Would you look at that?
Speaker B:Yeah, there are.
Speaker B:There are other you know, leaders that are doing what I did and interviewing other people, and there's just, like, this weird, like, social stigma to wanting to conform.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You demonize the black sheep till the black sheep gets rich, then you want to be the black sheep.
Speaker A:Yeah, Right.
Speaker B:I guarantee you Jeff Bezos growing up was not a normal kid.
Speaker B:I guarantee you Elon Musk growing up was not a normal kid.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:And yet you want your kids, and they want themselves to be cool and hip and liked by everybody.
Speaker B:But it's like, look, man, and sometimes in order to be the.
Speaker B:The person that's different and gets an abnormal result, you have to act differently abnormally to the group.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:It's true.
Speaker B:Yet we so badly want to be tribal and conform.
Speaker B:Well, if you want to be tribal,.
Speaker A:Especially if you want to.
Speaker A:Especially if you want to carry the group.
Speaker A:Yeah, if you want to be the person that carries a group.
Speaker A:I mean, I remember for years, I was not until later in his career where he actually got to see a little bit of the personality.
Speaker A:But for years, it was known like, Kobe didn't want to have any friends.
Speaker A:That's right, Kobe, why don't you want to have your friends?
Speaker A:He's like, I don't want friends.
Speaker A:I'm on banners.
Speaker A:I don't care about friends.
Speaker B:I. I did not like him while he was playing at all.
Speaker B:I met him a couple times.
Speaker B:His.
Speaker B:Some people, his agent that was close to.
Speaker B:And, you know, I'd met him and.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I. I just found American.
Speaker B:I'll never forget the press conference he had.
Speaker B:I think it was in Colorado about the girl that he had an affair with.
Speaker B:And I. I didn't like his mannerisms and.
Speaker B:And the way he was upset about being caught.
Speaker B:And then I read a GQ magazine article after he'd retired where he explained himself, and he explained that he was completely aware of the sacrifices that he had to make for fan, for friends, for family.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:To.
Speaker B:To get to where.
Speaker B:And it changed.
Speaker B:It changed my view on him because he clearly, knowingly made the sacrifices that he made.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I'm not justifying any of the bad stuff that may have happened.
Speaker A:But then.
Speaker A:Yeah, but then what was so cool?
Speaker A:What was also really cool about him?
Speaker A:Like, later in his career, like, he.
Speaker A:He too, also adapted and evolved.
Speaker A:So he became closer with teammates.
Speaker A:So what he would do.
Speaker A:One of my favorite stories of his was one of the guys, I guess, invited him to go out with some of the teammates, and he's like, all right, I'll go.
Speaker A:And then, like, A text story went out to him.
Speaker A:Hey, guys, Kobe said he's coming out tonight.
Speaker A:Like, we all got to go out.
Speaker A:So Kobe went out with all the guys that night, and they all had a really good time, and then went back to the hotel, and then he said 5am the next morning, he was knocking on my door, and I woke up, and he goes to the door.
Speaker A:He's like, what are you doing?
Speaker A:He's like, well, I went out with you last night.
Speaker A:Now you got to go out with me.
Speaker C:5:00Am workout.
Speaker A:5:00Am workout.
Speaker A:I went out with you.
Speaker A:Now you got a couple of guys.
Speaker A:Like, oh, that's.
Speaker A:That's showing a different side of leadership, right?
Speaker A:That's showing, like.
Speaker A:I don't know, like, evolved.
Speaker A:I thought that was really cool.
Speaker A:But, yeah, you're right.
Speaker A:I mean, it takes a different kind of person to.
Speaker A:To lead a group like that.
Speaker B:So I say this because, you know, if your kid's at a table and he's not talking to somebody, or he's different or she's different.
Speaker B:You know, we do this a lot.
Speaker B:We go, oh, your kid's got adhd or he's add.
Speaker B:You know, honestly, that's the super superpower.
Speaker A:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker B:You know, we demonize all this stuff.
Speaker B:We want all.
Speaker A:Maybe he's figuring something else out right now.
Speaker B:Well, yeah.
Speaker B:And, like.
Speaker B:Okay, so let me get this straight.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The kid can only focus on things they're super passionate about?
Speaker B:Bro, sign me.
Speaker B:I will snort whatever that kid snorted to get that.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, it's called collateral.
Speaker B:But no, seriously, though, I mean, it.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's like a superpower, but yet somehow.
Speaker A:We decided AD is a superpower.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That somehow we decided that kids who don't want to pay attention to school, which, by the way, is not exactly in the top 10 list people think is making them successful.
Speaker B:Name a successful person who's like, you know what I hate?
Speaker B:I went to school.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm doing great.
Speaker B:It's because I went to school.
Speaker B:Even doctors that I know surgeons well.
Speaker A:I was just.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:I don't know the numbers off the top of my head, but I was looking up a.
Speaker A:A study that I guess just recently came out over, like, white collar workers straight out of college, and.
Speaker A:And how they're all struggling to find jobs.
Speaker A:And it's like, listen, this.
Speaker A:This age group of people, right, that went to college after the great financial crisis.
Speaker A:If you.
Speaker A:There's been no time in history where.
Speaker A:Where these students studied more.
Speaker A:They've been in classrooms way longer than anybody else in history, super competitive.
Speaker A:They've taken way more AP classes.
Speaker A:They did everything the system wanted them to do.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:They signed up for the school.
Speaker A:They signed up for the student loans.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:They did it all.
Speaker A:Where at one point in time, it was viewed as a.
Speaker A:Going to college was like a bonus, but now they made it a necessity.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And who's.
Speaker A:Who's getting left with the bill with nothing to show for it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's like, damn, there's that Damn, damn, damn, damn.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:I don't know, man.
Speaker B:I spent a lot of time thinking about, like, you know, the show and doing the right thing.
Speaker B:The crazy part about it is, is on the show, we try to give real financial perspective to real people about real things that we live through.
Speaker B:No hyperbole, no extremism.
Speaker B:Just like, hey, man, like, this will help you.
Speaker B:Like, we should talk about allbirds knowing that.
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker B:A company completely can switch.
Speaker B:You can be literally 99% of your stock price, gone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And somehow manage to convince your shareholders to turn you into a new company and still live.
Speaker B:There's a lesson there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The new meme stock.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, say what you will, but it's meaningful.
Speaker B:It also goes to show you that you could throw AI damn near anything and turn it around these days because.
Speaker B:And people are like, oh, well, Chris.
Speaker B:It's like NFTs.
Speaker B:So what?
Speaker B:I. I was the first person that was like, NFTs are bullshit.
Speaker B:I don't get it.
Speaker B:But the blockchain.
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:I get.
Speaker B:I get why Web3 is important.
Speaker B:And then everybody was like, Ah, yeah, NFTs are stupid.
Speaker B:Ah.
Speaker B:But there's a lot of people out there who made a lot of money with NFTs.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you're like, oh, they.
Speaker B:They pulled the rug and did they, though?
Speaker B:Some people.
Speaker B:I'm not saying all, but some people believed in it.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's hard to.
Speaker A:It's hard to go.
Speaker A:Boil it down to intense.
Speaker B:Let me do the magic trick thing.
Speaker B:Let me do the magic trick of media on both of you guys.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:I'm gonna bring all this back home.
Speaker B:I'm gonna wrap it up with a bow for the end of the show.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:The magic trick thing is something that's so blatantly obvious in society that we all overlook it, but we don't realize that magic trick is played on us a hundred times a day.
Speaker B:We get sold from every.
Speaker B:I'm drinking an energy drink right now.
Speaker B:It's mostly water in a couple, like, drops of powder.
Speaker B:In it.
Speaker B:Yeah, with caffeine, Right.
Speaker B:We're talking on mics that have brand names associated with it.
Speaker B:We pay more for to the mics.
Speaker B:I mean, I can go on and on and on for things we got sold.
Speaker B:People are paying for only fans, so they can get porn for free.
Speaker B:You can literally go to open AI or, you know, ChatGPT and put someone's head on someone's body.
Speaker B:I'm not saying you should do that, but I'm just saying if you're going for somebody in particular, I mean, it's just strange to me what people are willing to pay for.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:You look at school and you go, okay, you're paying for this.
Speaker B:But do you know why are you paying for it?
Speaker B:Because somebody told you you needed to.
Speaker A:Yeah, in hopes that this is all going to work out.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's just you look at all the things that we pay for and all the things that we spend money on and you say to yourself, oh, we're just supposed to do this, but are we now?
Speaker B:And then you look at NFTs and you look at what happened and you say, okay, are they wrong for selling people's stupid shit that people bought?
Speaker B:I know, I know, I know that makes it sound terrible, right?
Speaker B:But at the time, people were willing to pay for it and they sold stuff to people that they were willing to buy or not.
Speaker A:They were sold.
Speaker A:They were sold thinking that it was gonna.
Speaker A:They're gonna get a return on their investment.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:You're sold everything.
Speaker B:Everything you buy, you think you're getting a return on your investment.
Speaker B:You're going to college.
Speaker B:You're going to college.
Speaker B:You're paying for that college because you think you're getting a return on your investment.
Speaker B:You're buying the energy drink because you think you're getting a good energy drink.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:This is how life works.
Speaker B:You're buying a pair of shoes, you buy Nikes instead of on running clubs because you think the Nikes are a better return on your investment.
Speaker B:That's the whole point.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay, now let's say your Nikes fall apart in a week or two.
Speaker B:Nike has warranty, I get it.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:But everything we buy, we think we're getting a return on investment.
Speaker B:Yet we demonize people who go like, oh, man, you bought an nft, you're stupid.
Speaker B:Well, that's easy in retrospect.
Speaker B:For a while, the prices were going up.
Speaker A:I know people need to get ready for the higher standard crypto coin.
Speaker B:That's definitely not happening.
Speaker B:But, you know, I guess my point with the whole thing is, is like, it's easy to judge people for spending money on things that don't make sense to us.
Speaker B:Like Labubus.
Speaker B:Labubus.
Speaker B:Great.
Speaker B:Yeah, those, those are popping for a while.
Speaker B:Everybody's buying those.
Speaker C:My wife, it's died off now.
Speaker B:Died off now.
Speaker A:I remember now.
Speaker A:Then they were addicted to those.
Speaker A:They were, they.
Speaker A:They use the same model as like the sneakers app where you gotta log in and then you like.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, you know, you won them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that was the exclusive drop thing again.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:You're building hype.
Speaker B:You're making people feel like they're going to get a return on their investment.
Speaker B:And people have this natural, like, hoarding, you know, kind of mentality.
Speaker B:There's resellers now who try to resell, so Pokemon cards.
Speaker B:Pokemon cards you buy, then they try to resell it and make money off it.
Speaker B:So everybody's trying to flip it and make more money off it.
Speaker B:And at some point the merry go round stops and you think, this is, oh, this is just niche products.
Speaker B:This is literally the way the stock market works now.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And you think, oh, hey, an IPO is coming out with SpaceX.
Speaker B:Hey, spoiler alert, kids.
Speaker B:Everybody else has already bought in.
Speaker B:You're just buying the resale goods now.
Speaker A:Yeah, I remember literally, like six months ago, a good friend of mine that you and I know was telling me that, dude, I'm telling you, watch.
Speaker A:Collectibles are going to be a thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Collectibles are going to go through the roof.
Speaker A:Get in on anything and everything that.
Speaker B:You can, and then they'll go right.
Speaker A:To the floor eventually, at some point.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And that, that's, that's just the nature of life.
Speaker B:It's cyclical.
Speaker A:So you just have to.
Speaker A:You just have to, I guess, follow who's.
Speaker A:Who's pumping it.
Speaker B:I don't even know that you need to do that.
Speaker B:I think you just need to know when it's time for you to get out.
Speaker B:Like, you need to know.
Speaker B:It's like any investment you make, right.
Speaker B:You need to watch the market, you need to know the market.
Speaker B:And then you need to watch your investments and understand how much you have risk of loss.
Speaker B:If the risk of loss exceeds your comfort level, cash out and move into something more stable.
Speaker A:Yeah, you got to try to understand what it is that you're buying.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, if you're not, don't just get into the Pokemon card space and you don't know jack about Pokemon.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, okay, let's use real estate as A good example.
Speaker B:Graham Stephan said he sold everything.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:He just sold all of his real estate.
Speaker B:And his argument was pretty compelling.
Speaker B:He said he's making about 4 to 5% with a ton of headache.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Every single month on his real estate.
Speaker B:But he had to deal with, you know, the, the permits, the plans.
Speaker B:He tried to put an ADU in a building.
Speaker B:He's got a substack about it, apparently, which I haven't read because I don't subscribe because I'm not stupid.
Speaker B:But, you know, he decided to get out of real estate and just put his money all in accounts.
Speaker B:He said he can get a CD right now with 5% rate, which in treasury builds with a 5% rate.
Speaker B:So, you know, and I. Yeah, he can.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's safer.
Speaker B:So if you're going to get a 5% treasury bill return with no risk of loss.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And none of the headache.
Speaker A:None of the headache.
Speaker A:I guess you're just losing out on the future appreciation.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But he came to a realization which I thought is interesting for the show and I thought was really worthwhile to talk about too, is that his realization was that he identified as a real estate investor.
Speaker B:I identify as a real estate investor.
Speaker A:I mean, that's how he started off.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:As a.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker A:I disagree with that.
Speaker B:I think he started off in the real estate business as a Realtor.
Speaker B:He started investing in real estate on.
Speaker B:Talking about.
Speaker B:On YouTube.
Speaker B:But YouTube's how he started off.
Speaker B:Everything else he was doing fed into the YouTube build.
Speaker B:Yeah, YouTube was really what made him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:The real estate investing stuff was just what he was talking about on YouTube.
Speaker B:And now he's transitioned to a wider net.
Speaker B:I take disagreement with a lot of the interviews that he does, but I get it now.
Speaker B:While my criticism of him and his.
Speaker B:His guests may have been wrong, wrongly placed, as recent events has showed us about our guests.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But he stopped and he looked at everything and said, this doesn't make financial sense anymore.
Speaker B:I'm going to do something different with, with my life, with.
Speaker B:And I'm not going to be a, quote, real estate investor anymore.
Speaker B:I have thought about that a lot.
Speaker B:I get that.
Speaker B:But I think that level of self awareness and willingness to not be dogmatic about who you are is how you grow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So you judge people who spend money on OnlyFans or NFTs or Labubus or, you know, stuff like that, but they're just being sold.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, and maybe that's my biggest weakness, is I'm not a good salesperson.
Speaker B:I'm a terrible salesperson.
Speaker A:It's not that you're a terrible, terrible salesperson.
Speaker B:I rationalize why people shouldn't buy things, and then I don't want to sell them things that I don't think they should buy.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:No, but you also feel like this is.
Speaker A:Even though there's a value there, you know that the value there is also can be.
Speaker A:Can be received free somewhere else.
Speaker A:So you're like, why would you do this with me versus elsewhere?
Speaker A:But there's a thing to be said about trust.
Speaker B:Maybe.
Speaker B:But, you know, again, I don't think there's so much on the Internet these days.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:Even if you didn't, it was on the Internet, you could ask an LLM.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:Just head over to our Patreon where we charge 100amonth.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Unfortunately, the only thing that's there before and after, photos of Rejeel from before and after Zepatide.
Speaker A:Honestly, that we are.
Speaker A:We're gonna start hyping that just for people to go over and make the drop.
Speaker A:July 1st.
Speaker B:Let's do the test for Rejo.
Speaker B:Virgil.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:You and I go to Hawaii tomorrow.
Speaker B:Shirts off or shirts on?
Speaker C:It's still.
Speaker C:Still gonna be.
Speaker C:Ah, yeah.
Speaker A:It'll be awful.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There he is.
Speaker A:Good man.
Speaker B:Confidence coming back, baby.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:Toes out, too.
Speaker B:No, no, no, no toes.
Speaker B:Y' all some dirty perverts.
Speaker A:No, no, toes out.
Speaker C:I gotta trim my toe hair.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You wearing socks?
Speaker A:You walk in socks with your sandals?
Speaker C:Oh, never.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker C:Only I'm not pulling the Jay Z.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Open toed sandals.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You'd be careful.
Speaker B:You're gonna offend.
Speaker B:Say this.
Speaker B:Traditional notions of fair play.
Speaker B:He is a sock with.
Speaker B:With slides, guys.
Speaker A:Slides.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not socks with rainbows.
Speaker A:Because that's weird, right?
Speaker A:With the guys that wear socks with the rainbows.
Speaker B:It's like, you can't wear rainbows with jeans either.
Speaker B:Don't do that.
Speaker B:If you wear rainbows with jeans.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker A:I have a problem with people that do.
Speaker B:Tell me how Coachella was.
Speaker A:Coachella?
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:I take that as like.
Speaker A:Like Newport beach vibes.
Speaker B:I don't like that one.
Speaker B:And honestly, all y' all who went to Coachella, I don't want to see any more your posts.
Speaker B:Like, stop it.
Speaker B:I don't need.
Speaker B:I don't need every single.
Speaker A:What was the controversy with?
Speaker A:Is there was a controversy with Bieber's performance.
Speaker C:Oh, it was great.
Speaker A:Great.
Speaker A:You saw the whole performance.
Speaker C:I did.
Speaker C:I did, yeah.
Speaker A:So did he actually perform or did he play YouTube videos?
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker C:So he played music from his latest two albums because he owns those.
Speaker C:Everything else.
Speaker C:He doesn't own his rights to his.
Speaker C: use he sold it back in, like,: Speaker A:So he played it all.
Speaker C:So he played YouTube and he sang along with the YouTube video.
Speaker A:He sang along or he lived it?
Speaker C:No, he did sing there, like, did some verses.
Speaker A:That's the loophole.
Speaker A:I heard he only did the show because he owes somebody, like, 10 miles mil.
Speaker C:No, he got paid 10 million from Coachella.
Speaker A:No, I know, but that was because he owed somebody 10 mil, man.
Speaker C:Haley Bieber got billions, dude.
Speaker A:Haley.
Speaker A:Haley Baldwin.
Speaker A:If you're Haley Baldwin, are you switching your name to Bieber or are you keeping Baldwin?
Speaker C:I think she switches to beaver.
Speaker A:No, but, like, what's the right move?
Speaker A:I'm asking you.
Speaker B:I've got nothing to contribute to this conversation.
Speaker B:Pop culture is you.
Speaker B:Him in a room.
Speaker C:But it was so good because it was just him singing.
Speaker A:Okay, So I never understood.
Speaker C:No people shaking.
Speaker A:I never understood stage.
Speaker C:It was just him.
Speaker A:I get, get.
Speaker A:I get.
Speaker A:This guy's, like, a phenom, right?
Speaker A:Like, Bieber is, like, extremely talented.
Speaker A:Extremely talented and like, like, ultra popular.
Speaker A:Probably one of the most popular people on earth, right?
Speaker A:I don't really see it.
Speaker A:For me, personally, like, I don't really care, right?
Speaker A:But I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker A:When.
Speaker A:When we went to the Laker game for my daughter's birthday, and he was sitting courtside and he got up to, like, go walk, and he was like, I was in the rafters, and he was right there below me, and I look, and I'm like, this guy's pretty cool, man.
Speaker A:I. I kind of get it.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker A:He's a vibe.
Speaker A:I would.
Speaker A:I wouldn't mind being friends with him over you.
Speaker B:I would prefer him over me, too.
Speaker C:We should invite him to the show.
Speaker B:Yeah, Maybe he'll show up just like Newsom did.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:That's a full circle moment.
Speaker A:Probably taking the high speed.
Speaker A:The invitation is out if y'.
Speaker C:All.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:If any one of our listeners want to get somebody from the opposite side of the aisle, you feel like.
Speaker A:Like you want them to come on the show.
Speaker A:I would love to have them on the show, please.
Speaker B:No, the kids say, anyone.
Speaker B:Any of our ops want to come on?
Speaker A:The ops?
Speaker B:The ops.
Speaker B:You gotta use lingo, bro.
Speaker A:They're not our ops, though.
Speaker A:We're not.
Speaker A:We haven't picked the side.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:Just fact checking.
Speaker B:Good job.
Speaker B:Good job.
Speaker B:All Right.
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Speaker B:All right, hold on a second.
Speaker B:Before we say goodbye, I just want everybody to know something real quick.
Speaker B:I gave Saeed the mic the freedom to speak, despite what CPD Engineer said.
Speaker B:I let him talk.
Speaker A:Yeah, those are my feelings.
Speaker B:I let him talk this entire episode.
Speaker B:I shut up.
Speaker B:I let him go because normally he's right.
Speaker B:I don't let say talk because when he does, he says some shit that I have to bleep out.
Speaker A:This is your conscience.
Speaker B:This is your conscience.
Speaker A:All right, good night, everybody.
Speaker B:Okay, bye.
